Mercurial > emacs
changeset 57500:45820949f0fc
Major rewrite; lists that follow the usual patterns removed.
author | Richard M. Stallman <rms@gnu.org> |
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date | Fri, 15 Oct 2004 15:45:39 +0000 |
parents | 2b47854e3d82 |
children | 6fa2d0822402 |
files | etc/MAILINGLISTS |
diffstat | 1 files changed, 48 insertions(+), 1255 deletions(-) [+] |
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--- a/etc/MAILINGLISTS Fri Oct 15 15:09:58 2004 +0000 +++ b/etc/MAILINGLISTS Fri Oct 15 15:45:39 2004 +0000 @@ -5,22 +5,27 @@ * Mailing list archives -The GNU mailing lists are archived at -ftp://ftp-mailing-list-archives.gnu.org/ +The GNU mailing lists are archived at http://lists.gnu.org. -* GNU mailing lists are also distributed as USENET news groups +* Some GNU mailing lists are also distributed as USENET news groups -The mailing lists are gated both ways with the gnu.all newsgroups at -uunet. The one-to-one correspondence is indicated below. If -you don't know if your site is on USENET, ask your system administrator. -If you are a USENET site and don't get the gnu.all newsgroups, please -ask your USENET administrator to get them. If he has your feeds ask -their feeds, you should win. And everyone else wins: newsgroups make -better use of the limited bandwidth of the computer networks and your -home machine than mailing list traffic; and staying off the mailing -lists make better use of the people who maintain the lists and the -machines that the GNU people working with rms use (i.e. we have more -time to produce code!!). Thanx. +Certain GNU mailing lists are gated both ways with the gnu.all +newsgroups at uunet. You can tell which they are, because the names +correspond. For instance, bug-gnu-emacs corresponds to gnu.emacs.bug; +info-gnu-emacs, to gnu.emacs.announce; help-gnu-emacs, to +gnu.emacs.help; gnu-emacs-sources, to gnu.emacs.sources. Replacing +`emacs' with some other program in those four examples shows you +the whole pattern. + +If you don't know if your site is on USENET, ask your system +administrator. If you are a USENET site and don't get the gnu.all +newsgroups, please ask your USENET administrator to get them. If he has +your feeds ask their feeds, you should win. And everyone else wins: +newsgroups make better use of the limited bandwidth of the computer +networks and your home machine than mailing list traffic; and staying +off the mailing lists make better use of the people who maintain the +lists and the machines that the GNU people working with rms use (i.e. we +have more time to produce code!!). Thanx. * Getting the mailing lists directly @@ -35,22 +40,14 @@ Send requests to be added or removed, to help-gnu-emacs-request (or info-gnu-request, bug-gdb-request, etc.), NOT to info-gnu-emacs (or info-gnu, etc.). Most <LIST_NAME>-request addresses are now handled -automagically by the SmartList program. +automagically by GNU Mailman. If you need to report problems to a human, send mail to gnu@gnu.org explaining the problem. Many of the GNU mailing lists are very large and are received by many -people. Please don't send them anything that is not seriously important -to all their readers. All GNU mailing lists are unmoderated mail -reflectors, except info-gnu, info-gnu-emacs, info-gcc, info-g++, -info-gnu-fortran. - -All addresses below are in internet format. Consult the mail guru for -your computer to figure out address syntaxes from other networks. From -UUCP machines: - ..!ucbvax!gnu.org!ADDRESS - ..!uunet!gnu.org!ADDRESS +people. Most are unmoderated, so please don't send them anything that +is not seriously important to all their readers. If a message you mail to a list is returned from a MAILER-DAEMON (often with the line: @@ -80,11 +77,10 @@ who ask, or putting it up for FTP). In the case of gnu.emacs.sources, somewhat larger postings (up to 10 parts of no more than 25,000 characters each) are acceptable (assuming they are likely to be of -interest to a reasonable number of people); if it is larger than that -have it added to archive.cis.ohio-state.edu (the GNU Emacs Lisp ftp and -uucp archive) and announce its location there. Good bug reports are -short. See section '* General Information about bug-* lists and ...' -for further details. +interest to a reasonable number of people); if it is larger than that, +put it in a web page and announce its URL. Good bug reports are short. +See section '* General Information about bug-* lists and ...' for +further details. Most of the time, when you reply to a message sent to a list, the reply should not go to the list. But most mail reading programs supply, by @@ -170,8 +166,7 @@ bugs and make the improvements that everyone wants. If you want help for yourself in particular, you may have to hire someone. The GNU project maintains a list of people providing such services. It is -distributed with GNU Emacs in file etc/SERVICE, and can be requested -from gnu@gnu.org. +found in <URL:http://www.gnu.org/prep/SERVICE>. Anything addressed to the implementors and maintainers of a GNU program via a bug-* list, should NOT be sent to the corresponding info-* or @@ -197,27 +192,23 @@ newsgroups, they never make it to the GNU maintainers at all. Please mail them to bug-*@gnu.org instead! -See section '* General Information about all lists'. +* Some special lists that don't fit the usual patterns of help-, bug- and info- -* info-gnu-request@gnu.org to subscribe to info-gnu -** gnUSENET newsgroup: gnu.announce -** Send announcements to: info-gnu@gnu.org +** info-gnu-request@gnu.org to subscribe to info-gnu + +gnUSENET newsgroup: gnu.announce +Send announcements to: info-gnu@gnu.org This list distributes progress reports on the GNU Project. It is also used by the GNU Project to ask people for various kinds of help. It is -NOT for general discussion. +moderated and NOT for general discussion. -The list is filtered to remove items meant for info-gnu-request, that -can be answered by the moderator without bothering the list, or should -have been sent to another list. +** gnu-misc-discuss-request@gnu.org to subscribe to gnu-misc-discuss -See section '* General Information about info-* lists'. +gnUSENET newsgroup: gnu.misc.discuss +Send contributions to: gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org -* gnu-misc-discuss-request@gnu.org to subscribe to gnu-misc-discuss -** gnUSENET newsgroup: gnu.misc.discuss -** Send contributions to: gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org - -This list is for serious discussion of freed software, the GNU Project, +This list is for serious discussion of free software, the GNU Project, the GNU Manifesto, and their implications. It's THE place for discussion that is not appropriate in the other GNU mailing lists and gnUSENET newsgroups. @@ -229,9 +220,11 @@ cool off, and think. Don't use this group for complaints and bug reports about GNU software! -The maintainers don't read this group; they won't see your complaint. -Use the appropriate bug-reporting mailing list instead, so that people -who can do something about the problem will see it. +The maintainers of the package you are using probably don't read this +group; they won't see your complaint. Use the appropriate bug-reporting +mailing list instead, so that people who can do something about the +problem will see it. Likewise, use the help- list for technical +questions. Don't trust pronouncements made on gnu-misc-discuss about what GNU is, what FSF position is, what the GNU General Public License is, etc., @@ -244,47 +237,13 @@ isn't that urgent! Readers on the Internet can anonymous FTP these articles from host ftp.uu.net under directory ?? -Someone from the Free Software Foundation will attempt to follow this -group as time and volume permits. - Remember, "GNUs Not Unix" and "gnUSENET is Not USENET". We have higher standards! -Note that sending technical questions about specific GNU software to -gnu-misc-discuss is likely to be less useful than sending them to the -appropriate mailing list or gnUSENET newsgroup, since more technical -people read those. - -* bug-gnu-sql-request@gnu.org to subscribe to bug-gnu-sql -** gnUSENET newsgroup: NONE PLANNED -** GNU-SQL BUG reports to: bug-gnu-sql@gnu.org - -This list distributes, to the active maintainers of GNU's SQL (GNU's SQL -full scale database server), bug reports and fixes for, and suggestions -for improvements to GNU's SQL. User discussion of GNU's SQL also occurs -here. - -There are no other GNU mailing lists or gnUSENET newsgroups for GNU's SQL. +** guile-sources-request@gnu.org to subscribe to guile-sources -See section '* General Information about bug-* lists and reporting -program bugs'. - -* bug-guile-request@gnu.org to subscribe to bug-guile -** gnUSENET newsgroup: NONE PLANNED -** GUILE BUG reports to: bug-guile@gnu.org - -This list distributes, to the active maintainers of GUILE (GNU's -Ubiquitous Extension Language), bug reports and fixes for, and suggestions for -improvements to GUILE. User discussion of GUILE also occurs here. - -There are no other GNU mailing lists or gnUSENET newsgroups for GUILE . - -See section '* General Information about bug-* lists and reporting -program bugs'. - -* guile-sources-request@gnu.org to subscribe to guile-sources -** gnUSENET newsgroup: NONE PLANNED -** Guile source code to: guile-sources@gnu.org +gnUSENET newsgroup: NONE PLANNED +Guile source code to: guile-sources@gnu.org This list will be for the posting, by their authors, of GUILE, Scheme, and C sources and patches that improve Guile. Its contents will be @@ -315,143 +274,10 @@ send it. This prevents the requester from getting many redundant copies and saves network bandwidth. -* bug-gnustep-request@gnu.org to subscribe to bug-gnustep -** gnUSENET newsgroup: gnu.gnustep.bug -** Gnustep bug reports to: bug-gnustep@gnu.org -** FAQ-URL: none known -** FAQ-Archive-name: none known -** FAQ-Posting-frequency: none known - -This list distributes bug reports for, fixes for bugs in, and -suggestions for improvements in GNUstep to its active developers. - -Subscribers to bug-gnustep get all info-gnustep messages. - -See section '* General Information about bug-* lists and reporting -program bugs'. - -* help-gnustep-request@gnu.org to subscribe to help-gnustep -** gnUSENET newsgroup: gnu.gnustep.help -** Send contributions to: help-gnustep@gnu.org -** FAQ-URL: none known -** FAQ-Archive-name: none known -** FAQ-Posting-frequency: none known - -This list is the place for users and installers of the GNUstep to ask -for help. 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Its contents @@ -485,1039 +311,6 @@ send it. This prevents the requester from getting many redundant copies and saves network bandwidth. -* help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org to subscribe to help-gnu-emacs -** gnUSENET newsgroup: gnu.emacs.help (and one-way into comp.emacs) -** Send contributions to: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org - -This list is the place for users and installers of GNU Emacs to ask for -help. Please send bug reports to bug-gnu-emacs instead of posting them -here. - -Since help-gnu-emacs is a very large list, send it only those items that -are seriously important to many people. - -If source or patches that were previously posted or a simple fix is -requested in help-gnu-emacs, please mail it to the requester. Do NOT -repost it. If you also want something that is requested, send mail to -the requester asking him to forward it to you. This kind of traffic is -best handled by e-mail, not a broadcast medium that reaches millions of -sites. - -This list is also gated one way to USENET's newsgroup comp.emacs (once -known as net.emacs). This one-way gating is done for users whose sites -get comp.emacs, but not gnu.emacs.help. Users at non-USENET sites may -receive all articles from comp.emacs by making their request to: -unix-emacs-request@bbn.com - -If Emacs crashes, or if you build Emacs following the standard procedure -on a system which Emacs is supposed to work on (see etc/MACHINES) and it -does not work at all, or if an editing command does not behave as it is -documented to behave, this is a bug. 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