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2 Some important URLs: | |
3 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | |
4 http://www.mplayerhq.hu/~michael/codec-features.html <- lavc vs. divx5 vs. xvid | |
5 http://rguyom.chez.tiscali.fr/libavcodec_tests.html <- lavc benchmarks, options | |
6 http://cutka.szm.sk/ffdshow/index.html <- lavc for win32 :) | |
7 http://www.bunkus.org/dvdripping4linux/index.html <- a nice tutorial | |
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9 ================================================================================ | |
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11 ENCODING QUALITY - OR WHY AUTOMATISM IS BAD. |
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13 Hi everyone. |
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15 Some days ago someone suggested adding some preset options to mencoder. |
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16 At that time I replied 'don't do that', and now I decided to elaborate |
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17 on that. |
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19 Warning: this is rather long, and it involves mathematics. But if you |
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20 don't want to bother with either then why are you encoding in the |
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21 first place? Go do something different! |
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23 The good news is: it's all about the bpp (bits per pixel). |
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25 The bad news is: it's not THAT easy ;) |
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27 This mail is about encoding a DVD to MPEG4. It's about the video |
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28 quality, not (primarily) about the audio quality or some other fancy |
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29 things like subtitles. |
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30 |
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31 The first step is to encode the audio. Why? Well if you encode the |
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32 audio prior to the video you'll have to make the video fit onto one |
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33 (or two) CD(s). That way you can use oggenc's quality based encoding |
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34 mode which is much more sophisticated than its ABR based mode. |
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36 After encoding the audio you have a certain amount of space left to |
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37 fill with video. Let's assume the audio takes 60M (no problem with |
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38 Vorbis), and you aim at a 700M CD. This leaves you 640M for the video. |
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39 Let's further assume that the video is 100 minutes or 6000 seconds |
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40 long, encoded at 25fps (those nasty NTSC fps values give me |
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41 headaches. Adjust to your needs, of course!). This leaves you with |
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42 a video bitrate of: |
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44 $videosize * 8 |
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45 $videobitrate = -------------- |
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46 $length * 1000 |
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48 $videosize in bytes, $length in seconds, $videobitrate in kbit/s. |
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49 In my example I end up with $videobitrate = 895. |
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51 And now comes the question: how do I chose my encoding parameters |
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52 so that the results will be good? First let's take a look at a |
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53 typical mencoder line: |
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55 mencoder -dvd 1 -o /dev/null -oac copy -ovc lavc \ |
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56 -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vbitrate=1000:vhq:vqmin=2:\ |
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57 vlelim=-4:vcelim=9:lumi_mask=0.05:dark_mask=0.01:vpass=1 \ |
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58 -vop scale=640:480,crop=716:572:2:2 |
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60 Phew, all those parameters! Which ones should I change? NEVER leave |
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61 out 'vhq'. Never ever. 'vqmin=2' is always good if you aim for sane |
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62 settings - like 'normal length' movies on one CD, 'very long movies' |
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63 on two CDs and so on. vcodec=mpeg4 is mandatory. |
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65 The 'vlelim=-4:vcelim=9:lumi_mask=0.05:dark_mask=0.01' are parameters |
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66 suggested by D Richard Felker for non-animated movies, and they |
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67 improve quality a bit. |
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68 |
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69 But the two things that have the most influence on quality are |
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70 vbitate and scale. Why? Because both together tell the codec how |
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71 many bits it may spend on each frame for each bit: and this is |
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72 the 'bpp' value (bits per pixel). It's simply defined as |
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74 $videobitrate * 1000 |
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75 $bpp = ----------------------- |
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76 $width * $height * $fps |
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78 I've attached a small Perl script that calculates the $bpp for |
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79 a movie. You'll have to give it four parameters: |
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80 a) the cropped but unscaled resolution (use '-vop cropdetect'), |
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81 b) the encoded aspect ratio. All DVDs come at 720x576 but contain |
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82 a flag that tells the player wether it should display the DVD at |
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83 an aspect ratio of 4/3 (1.333) or at 16/9 (1.777). Have a look |
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84 at mplayer's output - there's something about 'prescaling'. That's |
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85 what you are looking for. |
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86 c) the video bitrate in kbit/s and |
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87 d) the fps. |
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89 In my example the command line and calcbpp.pl's output would look |
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90 like this (warning - long lines ahead): |
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92 mosu@anakin:~$ ./calcbpp.pl 720x440 16/9 896 25 |
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93 Prescaled picture: 1023x440, AR 2.33 |
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94 720x304, diff 5, new AR 2.37, AR error 1.74% scale=720:304 bpp: 0.164 |
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95 704x304, diff -1, new AR 2.32, AR error 0.50% scale=704:304 bpp: 0.167 |
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96 688x288, diff 8, new AR 2.39, AR error 2.58% scale=688:288 bpp: 0.181 |
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97 672x288, diff 1, new AR 2.33, AR error 0.26% scale=672:288 bpp: 0.185 |
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98 656x288, diff -6, new AR 2.28, AR error 2.17% scale=656:288 bpp: 0.190 |
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99 640x272, diff 3, new AR 2.35, AR error 1.09% scale=640:272 bpp: 0.206 |
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100 624x272, diff -4, new AR 2.29, AR error 1.45% scale=624:272 bpp: 0.211 |
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101 608x256, diff 5, new AR 2.38, AR error 2.01% scale=608:256 bpp: 0.230 |
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102 592x256, diff -2, new AR 2.31, AR error 0.64% scale=592:256 bpp: 0.236 |
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103 576x240, diff 8, new AR 2.40, AR error 3.03% scale=576:240 bpp: 0.259 |
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104 560x240, diff 1, new AR 2.33, AR error 0.26% scale=560:240 bpp: 0.267 |
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105 544x240, diff -6, new AR 2.27, AR error 2.67% scale=544:240 bpp: 0.275 |
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106 528x224, diff 3, new AR 2.36, AR error 1.27% scale=528:224 bpp: 0.303 |
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107 512x224, diff -4, new AR 2.29, AR error 1.82% scale=512:224 bpp: 0.312 |
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108 496x208, diff 5, new AR 2.38, AR error 2.40% scale=496:208 bpp: 0.347 |
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109 480x208, diff -2, new AR 2.31, AR error 0.85% scale=480:208 bpp: 0.359 |
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110 464x192, diff 7, new AR 2.42, AR error 3.70% scale=464:192 bpp: 0.402 |
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111 448x192, diff 1, new AR 2.33, AR error 0.26% scale=448:192 bpp: 0.417 |
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112 432x192, diff -6, new AR 2.25, AR error 3.43% scale=432:192 bpp: 0.432 |
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113 416x176, diff 3, new AR 2.36, AR error 1.54% scale=416:176 bpp: 0.490 |
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114 400x176, diff -4, new AR 2.27, AR error 2.40% scale=400:176 bpp: 0.509 |
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115 384x160, diff 5, new AR 2.40, AR error 3.03% scale=384:160 bpp: 0.583 |
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116 368x160, diff -2, new AR 2.30, AR error 1.19% scale=368:160 bpp: 0.609 |
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117 352x144, diff 7, new AR 2.44, AR error 4.79% scale=352:144 bpp: 0.707 |
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118 336x144, diff 0, new AR 2.33, AR error 0.26% scale=336:144 bpp: 0.741 |
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119 320x144, diff -6, new AR 2.22, AR error 4.73% scale=320:144 bpp: 0.778 |
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121 A word for the $bpp. For a fictional movie which is only black and |
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122 white: if you have a $bpp of 1 then the movie would be stored |
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123 uncompressed :) For a real life movie with 24bit color depth you |
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124 need compression of course. And the $bpp can be used to make the |
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125 decision easier. |
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127 As you can see the resolutions suggested by the script are all |
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128 dividable by 16. This will make the aspect ratio slightly wrong, |
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129 but no one will notice. |
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131 Now if you want to decide which resolution (and scaling parameters) |
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132 to chose you can do that by looking at the $bpp: |
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134 < 0.10: don't do it. Please. I beg you! |
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135 < 0.15: It will look bad. |
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136 < 0.20: You will notice blocks, but it will look ok. |
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137 < 0.25: It will look really good. |
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138 > 0.25: It won't really improve visually. |
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139 > 0.30: Don't do that either - try a bigger resolution instead. |
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141 Of course these values are not absolutes! For movies with really lots |
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142 of black areas 0.15 may look very good. Action movies with only high |
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143 motion scenes on the other hand may not look perfect at 0.25. But these |
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144 values give you a great idea about which resolution to chose. |
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145 |
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146 I see a lot of people always using 512 for the width and scaling |
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147 the height accordingly. For my (real-world-)example this would be |
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148 simply a waste of bandwidth. The encoder would probably not even |
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149 need the full bitrate, and the resulting file would be smaller |
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150 than my targetted 700M. |
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151 |
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152 After encoding you'll do your 'quality check'. First fire up the movie |
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153 and see whether it looks good to you or not. But you can also do a |
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154 more 'scientific' analysis. The second Perl script I attached counts |
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155 the quantizers used for the encoding. Simply call it with |
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156 |
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157 countquant.pl < divx2pass.log |
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158 |
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159 It will print out which quantizer was used how often. If you see that |
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160 e.g. the lowest quantizer (vqmin=2) gets used for > 95% of the frames |
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161 then you can safely increase your picture size. |
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162 |
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163 > The "counting the quantesizer"-thing could improve the quality of |
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164 > full automated scripts, as I understand ? |
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165 |
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166 Yes, the log file analysis can be used be tools to automatically adjust |
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167 the scaling parameters (if you'd do that you'd end up with a three-pass |
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168 encoding for the video only ;)), but it can also provide answers for |
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169 you as a human. From time to time there's a question like 'hey, |
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170 mencoder creates files that are too small! I specified this bitrate and |
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171 the resulting file is 50megs short of the target file size!'. The |
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172 reason is probably that the codec already uses the minimum quantizer |
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173 for nearly all frames so it simply does not need more bits. A quick |
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174 glance at the distribution of the quantizers can be enlightening. |
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175 |
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176 Another thing is that q=2 and q=3 look really good while the 'bigger' |
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177 quantizers really lose quality. So if your distribution shows the |
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178 majority of quantizers at 4 and above then you should probably decrease |
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179 the resolution (you'll definitly see block artefacts). |
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180 |
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181 |
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182 Well... Several people will probably disagree with me on certain |
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183 points here, especially when it comes down to hard values (like the |
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184 $bpp categories and the percentage of the quantizers used). But |
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185 the idea is still valid. |
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186 |
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187 And that's why I think that there should NOT be presets in mencoder |
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188 like the presets lame knows. 'Good quality' or 'perfect quality' are |
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189 ALWAYS relative. They always depend on a person's personal preferences. |
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190 If you want good quality then spend some time reading and - more |
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191 important - understanding what steps are involved in video encoding. |
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192 You cannot do it without mathematics. Oh well, you can, but you'll |
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193 end up with movies that could certainly look better. |
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194 |
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195 Now please shoot me if you have any complaints ;) |
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196 |
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197 -- |
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198 ==> Ciao, Mosu (Moritz Bunkus) |
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199 |
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200 =========== |
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201 ANOTHER APPROACH: BITS PER BLOCK: |
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202 |
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203 > $videobitrate * 1000 |
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204 > $bpp = ----------------------- |
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205 > $width * $height * $fps |
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206 |
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207 Well, I came to similar equation going through different route. Only I |
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208 didn't use bits per pixel, in my case it was bits per block (BPB). The block |
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209 is 16x16 because lots of software depends on video width/height being |
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210 divisable by 16. And because I didn't like this 0.2 bit per pixel, when |
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211 bit is quite atomic ;) |
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212 |
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213 So the equation was something like: |
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214 |
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215 bitrate |
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216 bpb = ----------------- |
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217 fps * ((width * height) / (16 * 16)) |
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218 |
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219 (width and height are from destination video size, and bitrate is in |
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220 bits (i.e. 900kbps is 900000)) |
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221 |
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222 This way it apeared that the minimum bits per block is ~40, very |
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223 good results are with ~50, and everything above 60 is a waste of bandwith. |
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224 And what's actually funny is that it was independant of codec used. The |
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225 results were exactly the same, whether I used DIV3 (with tricky nandub's |
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226 magick), ffmpeg odivx, DivX5 on Windows or XviD. |
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227 |
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228 Surprisingly there is one advantage of using nandub-DIV3 for bitrate |
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229 starved encoding: ringing almost never apears this way. |
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230 |
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231 But I also found out, that the quality/BPB isn't constant for |
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232 drastically different resolutions. Smaller picture (like MPEG1 sizes) |
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233 need more BPB to look good than say typical MPEG2 resolutions. |
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234 |
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235 Robert |
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238 =========== |
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239 DON'T SCALE DOWN TOO MUCH |
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240 |
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241 Sometimes I found that encoding to y-scaled only DVD qualty (ie 704 x |
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242 288 for a 2.85 film) gives better visual quality than a scaled-down |
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243 version even if the quantizers are significantly higher than for the |
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244 scaled-down version. |
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245 Keep in mind that blocs, fuzzy parts and generaly mpeg artefacts in a |
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246 704x288 image will be harder to spot in full-screen mode than on a |
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247 512x208 image. In fact I've see example where the same movie looks |
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248 better compressed to 704x288 with an average weighted quantizer of |
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249 ~3 than the same movie scaled to 576x240 with an average weighted |
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250 quantizer of 2.4. |
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251 Btw, a print of the weighted average quantizer would be nice in |
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252 countquant.pl :) |
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253 |
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254 Another point in favor of not trying to scale down too much : on hard |
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255 scaled-down movies, the MPEG codec will need to compress relatively |
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256 high frequencies rather than low frequencies and it doesn't like that |
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257 at all. You will see less and less returns while you scale down and |
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258 scale down again in desesperate need of some bandwidth :) |
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259 |
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260 In my experience, don't try to go below a width of 576 without closely |
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261 watching what's going on. |
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262 |
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263 -- |
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264 Rémi |
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266 =========== |
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267 TIPS FOR ENCODING |
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268 |
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269 That being said, with video you have some tradeoffs you can make. Most |
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270 people seem to encode with really basic options, but if you play with |
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271 single coefficient elimination and luma masking settings, you can save lots |
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272 of bits, resulting in lower quantizers, which means less blockiness and |
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273 less ugly noise (ringing) around sharp borders. The tradeoff, however, is |
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274 that you'll get some "muddiness" in some parts of the image. Play around |
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275 with the settings and see for yourself. The options I typically use for |
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276 (non-animated) movies are: |
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277 |
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278 vlelim=-4 |
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279 vcelim=9 |
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280 lumi_mask=0.05 |
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281 dark_mask=0.01 |
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282 |
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283 If things look too muddy, making the numbers closer to 0. For anime and |
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284 other animation, the above recommendations may not be so good. |
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286 Another option that may be useful is allowing four motion vectors per |
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287 macroblock (v4mv). This will increase encoding time quite a bit, and |
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288 last I checked it wasn't compatible with B frames. AFAIK, specifying |
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289 v4mv should never reduce quality, but it may prevent some old junky |
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290 versions of DivX from decoding it (can anyone conform?). Another issue |
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291 might be increased cpu time needed for decoding (again, can anyone |
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292 confirm?). |
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293 |
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294 To get more fair distribution of bits between low-detail and |
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295 high-detail scenes, you should probably try increasing vqcomp from the |
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296 default (0.5) to something in the range 0.6-0.8. |
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298 Of course you also want to make sure you crop ALL of the black border and |
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299 any half-black pixels at the edge of the image, and make sure the final |
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300 image dimensions after cropping and scaling are multiples of 16. Failing to |
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301 do so will drastically reduce quality. |
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302 |
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303 Finally, if you can't seem to get good results, you can try scaling the |
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304 movie down a bit smaller or applying a weak gaussian blur to reduce the |
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305 amount of detail. |
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306 |
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307 Now, my personal success story! I just recently managed to fit a beautiful |
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308 encode of Kundun (well over 2 hours long, but not too many high-motion |
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309 scenes) on one cd at 640x304, with 66 kbit/sec abr ogg audio, using the |
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310 options I described above. So, IMHO it's definitely possible to get very |
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311 good results with libavcodec (certainly MUCH better than all the idiot |
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312 "release groups" using DivX3 make), as long as you take some time to play |
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313 around with the options. |
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314 |
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315 |
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316 Rich |
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317 |
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318 ============ |
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319 ABOUT VLELIM, VCELIM, LUMI_MASK AND DARK_MASK PART I: LUMA & CHROMA |
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321 |
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322 The l/c in vlelim and vcelim stands for luma (brightness plane) and chroma |
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323 (color planes). These are encoded separately in all mpeg-like algorithms. |
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324 Anyway, the idea behind these options is (at least from what I understand) |
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325 to use some good heuristics to determine when the change in a block is less |
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326 than the threshold you specify, and in such a case, to just encode the |
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327 block as "no change". This saves bits and perhaps speeds up encoding. Using |
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328 a negative value for either one means the same thing as the corresponding |
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329 positive value, but the DC coefficient is also considered. Unfortunately |
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330 I'm not familiar enough with the mpeg terminology to know what this means |
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331 (my first guess would be that it's the constant term from the DCT), but it |
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332 probably makes the encoder less likely to apply single coefficient |
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333 elimination in cases where it would look bad. It's presumably recommended |
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334 to use negative values for luma (which is more noticable) and positive for |
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335 chroma. |
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336 |
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337 The other options -- lumi_mask and dark_mask -- control how the quantizer |
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338 is adjusted for really dark or bright regions of the picture. You're |
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339 probably already at least a bit familiar with the concept of quantizers |
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340 (qscale, lower = more precision, higher quality, but more bits needed to |
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341 encode). What not everyone seems to know is that the quantizer you see |
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342 (e.g. in the 2pass logs) is just an average for the whole frame, and lower |
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343 or higher quantizers may in fact be used in parts of the picture with more |
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344 or less detail. Increasing the values of lumi_mask and dark_mask will cause |
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345 lavc to aggressively increase the quantizer in very dark or very bright |
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346 regions of the picture (which are presumably not as noticable to the human |
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347 eye) in order to save bits for use elsewhere. |
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348 |
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349 Rich |
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350 |
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351 =================== |
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352 ABOUT VLELIM, VCELIM, LUMI_MASK AND DARK_MASK PART II: VQSCALE |
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354 OK, a quick explanation. The quantizer you set with vqscale=N is the |
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355 per-frame quantizer parameter (aka qp). However, with mpeg4 it's |
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356 allowed (and recommended!) for the encoder to vary the quantizer on a |
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357 per-macroblock (mb) basis (as I understand it, macroblocks are 16x16 |
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358 regions composed of 4 8x8 luma blocks and 2 8x8 chroma blocks, u and |
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359 v). To do this, lavc scores each mb with a complexity value and |
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360 weights the quantizer accordingly. However, you can control this |
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361 behavior somewhat with scplx_mask, tcplx_mask, dark_mask, and |
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362 lumi_mask. |
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363 |
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364 scplx_mask -- raise quantizer on mb's with lots of spacial complexity. |
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365 Spacial complexity is measured by variance of the texture (this is |
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366 just the actual image for I blocks and the difference from the |
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367 previous coded frame for P blocks). |
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368 |
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369 tcplx_mask -- raise quantizer on mb's with lots of temporal |
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370 complexity. Temporal complexity is measured according to motion |
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371 vectors. |
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372 |
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373 dark_mask -- raise quantizer on very dark mb's. |
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374 |
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375 lumi_mask -- raise quantizer on very bright mb's. |
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376 Somewhere around 0-0.15 is a safe range for these values, IMHO. You |
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377 might try as high as 0.25 or 0.3. You should probably never go over |
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378 0.5 or so. |
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379 |
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380 Now, about naq. When you adjust the quantizers on a per-mb basis like |
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381 this (called adaptive quantization), you might decrease or (more |
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382 likely) increase the average quantizer used, so that it no longer |
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383 matches the requested average quantizer (qp) for the frame. This will |
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384 result in weird things happening with the bitrate, at least from my |
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385 experience. What naq does is "normalize adaptive quantization". That |
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386 is, after the above masking parameters are applied on a per-mb basis, |
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387 the quantizers of all the blocks are rescaled so that the average |
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388 stays fixed at the desired qp. |
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389 |
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390 So, if I used vqscale=4 with naq and fairly large values for the |
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391 masking parameters, I might be likely to see lots of frames using |
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392 qscale 2,3,4,5,6,7 across different macroblocks as needed, but with |
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393 the average sticking around 4. However, I haven't actually tested such |
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394 a setup yet, so it's just speculation right now. |
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395 |
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396 Have fun playing around with it. |
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397 |
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398 Rich |
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400 ====================== |
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401 TIPS FOR ENCODING OLD BLACK & WHITE MOVIES: |
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402 |
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403 I found myself that 4:3 B&W old movies are very hard to compress well. In |
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404 addition to the 4:3 aspect ratio which eats lots of bits, those movies are |
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405 typically very "noisy", which doesn't help at all. Anyway : |
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406 |
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407 > After a few tries I am |
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408 > still a little bit disappointed with the video quality. Since it is a |
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409 > "dark" movies, there is a lot of black on the pictures, and on the |
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410 > encoded avi I can see a lot of annoying "mpeg squares". I am using |
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411 > avifile codec, but the best I think is to give you the command line I |
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412 > used to encode a preview of the result: |
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414 > |
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415 > First pass: |
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416 > mencoder TITLE01-ANGLE1.VOB -oac copy -ovc lavc -lavcopts |
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417 > vcodec=mpeg4:vhq:vpass=1:vbitrate=800:keyint=48 -ofps 23.976 -npp lb |
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418 > -ss 2:00 -endpos 0:30 -vop scale -zoom -xy 640 -o movie.avi |
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420 1) keyint=48 is way too low. The default value is 250, this is in *frames* |
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421 not seconds. Key frames are significantly larger than P or B frames, so the |
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422 less key frames you have, better the overall movie will be. (huh, like Yoda |
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423 I speak ;). Try keyint=300 or 350. Don't go beyond that if you want |
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424 relatively precise seeking. |
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425 |
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426 2) you may want to play with vlelim and vcelim options. This can gives you |
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427 a significant "quality" boost. Try one of these couples : |
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429 vlelim=-2:vcelim=3 |
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430 vlelim=-3:vcelim=5 |
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431 vlelim=-4:vcelim=7 |
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432 (and yes, there's a minus) |
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433 |
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434 3) crop & rescale the movie before passing it to the codec. First crop the |
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435 movie to not encode black bars if there's any. For a 1h40mn movie |
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436 compressed to a 700 MB file, I would try something between 512x384 and |
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437 480x320. Don't go below that if you want something relatively sharp when |
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438 viewed fullscreen. |
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439 |
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440 4) I would recommend using the Ogg Vorbis audio codec with the .ogm |
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441 container format. Ogg Vorbis compress audio better than MP3. On a typical |
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442 old, mono-only audio stream, a 45 kbits/s Vorbis stream is ok. How to |
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443 extract & compress an audio stream from a ripped DVD (mplayer -dvd 1 |
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444 -dumpstream) : |
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445 |
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446 rm -f audiodump.pcm ; mkfifo -m 600 audiodump.pcm |
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447 mplayer -quiet -vc null -vo null -aid 128 -ao pcm -nowaveheader stream.dump & |
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448 oggenc --raw --raw-bits=16 --raw-chan=2 --raw-rate=48000 -q 1 -o audio-us.ogg |
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449 +audiodump.pcm & |
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450 wait |
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451 |
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452 For a nice set of utilities to manager the .ogm format, see Moritz Bunkus' |
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453 ogmtools (google is your friend). |
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454 |
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455 5) use the "v4mv" option. This could gives you a few more bits at the |
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456 expense of a slightly longer encoding. This is a "lossless" option, I mean |
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457 with this option you don't throw away some video information, it just |
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458 selects a more precise motion estimation method. Be warned that on some |
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459 very un-typical scenes this option may gives you a longer file than |
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460 without, although it's very rare and on a whole film I think it's always a |
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461 win. |
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462 |
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463 6) you can try the new luminance & darkness masking code. Play |
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464 with the "lumi_mask" and "dark_mask" options. I would recommend using |
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465 something like : |
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466 lumi_mask=0.07:dark_mask=0.10:naq: |
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467 lumi_mask=0.10:dark_mask=0.12:naq: |
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468 lumi_mask=0.12:dark_mask=0.15:naq |
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469 lumi_mask=0.13:dark_mask=0.16:naq: |
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470 Be warned that these options are really experimental and the result |
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471 could be very good or very bad depending on your visualization device |
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472 (computer CRT, TV or TFT screen). Don't push too hard these options. |
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473 |
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474 > Second pass: |
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475 > the same with vpass=2 |
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476 |
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477 7) I've found that lavc gives better results when the first pass is done |
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478 with "vqscale=2" instead of a target bitrate. The statistics collected |
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479 seems to be more precise. YMMV. |
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481 > I am new to mencoder, so please tell me any idea you have even if it |
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482 > obvious. I also tried the "gray" option of lavc, to encode B&W only, |
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483 > but strangely it gives me "pink" squares from time to time. |
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484 |
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485 Yes, I've seen that too. Playing the resulting file with "-lavdopts gray" |
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486 fix the problem but it's not very nice ... |
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487 |
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488 > So if you could tell me what option of mencoder or lavc I should be |
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489 > looking at to lower the number of "squares" on the image, it would be |
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490 > great. The version of mencoder i use is 0.90pre8 on a macos x PPC |
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491 > platform. I guess I would have the same problem by encoding anime |
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492 > movies, where there are a lot of region of the image with the same |
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493 > color. So if you managed to solve this problem... |
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494 |
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495 You could also try the "mpeg_quant" flag. It selects a different set of |
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496 quantizers and produce somewhat sharper pictures and less blocks on large |
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497 zones with the same or similar luminance, at the expense of some bits. |
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498 |
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499 > This is completely off topic, but do you know how I can create good |
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500 > subtitles from vobsub subtitles ? I checked the -dumpmpsub option of |
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501 > mplayer, but is there a way to do it really fast (ie without having to |
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502 > play the whole movie) ? |
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503 |
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504 I didn't find a way under *nix to produce reasonably good text subtitles |
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505 from vobsubs. OCR *nix softwares seems either not suited to the task, not |
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506 powerful enough or both. I'm extracting the vobsub subtitles and simply use |
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507 them with the .ogm |
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508 |
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509 / .avi : |
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510 1) rip the DVD to harddisk with "mplayer -dvd 1 -dumpstream" |
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511 2) mount the DVD and copy the .ifo file |
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512 2) extract all vobsubs to one single file with something like : |
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513 |
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514 for f in 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 ; do \ |
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515 mencoder -ovc copy -oac copy -o /dev/null -sid $f -vobsubout sous-titres |
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516 +-vobsuboutindex $f -ifo vts_01_0.ifo stream.dump |
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517 done |
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518 |
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519 (and yes, I've a DVD with 12 subtitles) |
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520 -- |
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521 Rémi |
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522 |
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523 ================================ |
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524 |
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525 TIPS FOR SMOKE & CLOUDS |
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526 |
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527 Q: I'm trying to encode Dante's Peak and I'm having problems with clouds, |
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528 fog and smoke: They don't look fine (they look very bad if I watch the |
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529 movie in TVout). There are some artifacts, white clouds looks as snow |
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530 mountains, there are things likes hip in the colors so one can see frontier |
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531 curves between white and light gray and dark gray ... (I don't know if you |
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532 can understand me, I want to mean that the colors don't change smoothly) |
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533 In particular I'm using vqscale=2:vhq:v4mv |
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534 |
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535 A: Try adding "vqcomp=0.7:vqblur=0.2:mpeg_quant" to lavcopts. |
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536 |
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537 Q: I tried your suggestion and it improved the image a little ... but not |
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538 enough. I was playing with different options and I couldn't find the way. |
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539 I suppose that the vob is not so good (watching it in TV trough the |
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540 computer looks better than my encoding, but it isn't a lot of better). |
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541 |
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542 A: Yes, those scenes with qscale=2 looks terrible :-( |
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543 |
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544 Try with vqmin=1 in addition to mpeg_quant:vlelim=-4:vcelim=-7 (and maybe |
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545 with "-sws 10 -ssf ls=1" to sharpen a bit the image) and read about vqmin=1 |
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546 in DOCS/tech/libavc-options.txt. |
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547 |
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548 If after the whole movie is encoded you still see the same problem, it will |
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549 means that the second pass didn't picked-up q=1 for this scene. Force q=1 |
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550 with the "vrc_override" option. |
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551 |
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552 Q: By the way, is there a special difficult in encode clouds or smoke? |
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553 |
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554 A: I would say it depends on the sharpness of these clouds / smokes and the |
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555 fact that they are mostly black/white/grey or colored. The codec will do |
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556 the right thing with vqmin=2 for example on a cigarette smoke (sharp) or on |
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557 a red/yellow cloud (explosion, cloud of fire). But may not with a grey and |
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558 very fuzzy cloud like in the chocolat scene. Note that I don't know exactly |
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559 why ;) |
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560 |
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561 A = Rémi |
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563 |