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author arpi
date Mon, 13 May 2002 22:03:37 +0000
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-<P>
-<B>Question:</B> What is GCC 2.96 ? I can't find it at the GNU site.
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-<B>Answer:</B> Read the <A HREF="http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-2.96.html">official answer from GNU GCC team.</A>
-</P>
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-<P>
-<B>Question:</B> What is the problem with GCC 2.96 ? And with 3.x ?
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-<P>
-<B>Answer:</B>
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-
-<P>Read in MySQL documentation :</P>
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-<P><I>
-  Compiler Advisory: Several of our users have reported random crashes and
-  table corruption with MySQL binaries compiled with gcc two-dot-nine-six on
-  the x86 Linux platform. Although we were unable to duplicate the problems
-  ourselves or understand their exact cause, we suspect with a great degree of
-  confidence that the problem was compiler related. Replacing the faulty binary
-  with our binary always eliminated the problem.
-</I></P>
-
-<P>
-And for the people who periodically ask what the exact problems with
-gcc 2.96 are, my answer: <I>We don't know exactly.</I> 
-There were various problems and new problems / bugs come up periodically.
-It is <I>not a single bug/problem</I>. We just see various bug reports, mostly
-gcc internal bugs, compiler syntax errors in source or bad code compiled. They
-are all solved by using a different version of gcc. I understand that gcc 2.96
-has different default optimization flags and they conflict with our inline
-asm code, but we can't fix them, and we really don't want to fix them as they
-work with other compilers or gcc versions, and the fix may cause speed loss.
-</P>
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-<P>
-I think that gcc 2.96 should be fixed to be option-compatible with other
-releases, but Red Hat guys refused to do it. If someone is interested - ask
-Eugene K., avifile author, he has a long mailing with them, because they had
-the same problems with avifile. Finally he changed avifile source to
-<I>work around</I> gcc 2.96 bugs...
-We simply have no interest and time to do it.
-</P>
-
-<P>
-Ah, and about the pipe-in-comment bug: it wasn't really our bug.
-I've talked to one of the gcc maintainers, and he told me that gcc 2.96 and 3.x
-support Intel asm syntax, and it caused the pipe bug. But it <I>is</I> a bug,
-because gcc <I>silently</I>, without any warning, ignored the whole asm block!
-</P>
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-<P>
-Other gcc 3.x problems come from a broken libstdc++ or glibc header (std_*.h)
-installation. They are not our fault. MPlayer compiles and works well with
-gcc 2.95.3 (<B>MEncoder</B> won't work with 2.95.2 because it miscompiles
-some MMX instructions). <B>2.96 and 3.0.x are broken</B>, but it depends on
-many environment elements, including gcc 2.96 release number, enabled mplayer
-features, etc. <I>If it works for you using gcc 2.96, it doesn't mean it will
-work for everyone.</I>
-</P>
-
-<P><B>Answer 2:</B></P>
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-<P>
-Also read <A HREF="users_against_developers.html">this</A> text !!!</P>
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-<P>
-<B>Question:</B> No! You are wrong! Everything works with gcc 2.96 <I>but</I> MPlayer !
-</P>
-
-<P>
-<B>Answer:</B>
-</P>
-
-<P>
-No. You are wrong!
-Several projects (mostly those which contain highly optimized inline asm code)
-had problems with gcc 2.96, for example: avifile, MESA / DRI, Wine, ffmpeg,
-lame, NuppelVideo, MySQL. But other projects already worked around gcc bugs
-(changed code which triggered compiler bugs) so they work for now.
-</P>
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-<P>
-<B>Question:</B> No! You are wrong! Everything works with gcc 2.96 <I>including</I> MPlayer .
-</P>
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-<P>
-<B>Answer:</B>
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-
-Good. Be happy. But you must know, it depends on many environment
-elements, including gcc 2.96 release number, enabled mplayer features, etc.
-<I>If it works for you using gcc 2.96, it doesn't mean it will work for everyone!</I>
-It only means that you are lucky, until you find a problem. But don't forget the
-<B>No.1 rule of gcc 2.96 users: NEVER REPORT BUGS OR PROBLEMS IF YOU ARE USING GCC 2.96</B> !
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-<P>
-<B>Question:</B> OK. Understood. But I want to give it a try... how to compile with gcc 2.96?
-</P>
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-<P>
-<B>Answer:</B> Really? Are you sure? OK. You know... here it is: ./configure --disable-gcc-checking
-</P>
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-<P>
-<B>Question:</B> No! I don't agree with you, because ...
-</P>
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-<P>
-<B>Answer:</B> It doesn't matter. Keep your comments to yourself. We're not interested in gcc 2.96 stories.
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