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| 5054 | 15 <B>Question:</B> What is GCC 2.96 ? I can't find it at the GNU site. |
| 2441 | 16 </P> |
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| 19 <B>Answer:</B> Read the <A HREF="http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-2.96.html">official answer from GNU GCC team.</A> | |
| 20 </P> | |
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| 23 <B>Question:</B> What is the problem with GCC 2.96 ? And with 3.x ? | |
| 24 </P> | |
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| 27 <B>Answer:</B> | |
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30 <P>Read in MySQL documentation :</P> |
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33 Compiler Advisory: Several of our users have reported random crashes and |
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37 confidence that the problem was compiler related. Replacing the faulty binary |
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| 2440 | 41 <P> |
| 5054 | 42 And for the people who periodically ask what the exact problems with |
| 43 gcc 2.96 are, my answer: <I>We don't know exactly.</I> | |
| 2441 | 44 There were various problems and new problems / bugs come up periodically. |
| 5054 | 45 It is <I>not a single bug/problem</I>. We just see various bug reports, mostly |
| 2440 | 46 gcc internal bugs, compiler syntax errors in source or bad code compiled. They |
| 5054 | 47 are all solved by using a different version of gcc. I understand that gcc 2.96 |
| 48 has different default optimization flags and they conflict with our inline | |
| 2440 | 49 asm code, but we can't fix them, and we really don't want to fix them as they |
| 50 work with other compilers or gcc versions, and the fix may cause speed loss. | |
| 51 </P> | |
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| 53 <P> | |
| 5054 | 54 I think that gcc 2.96 should be fixed to be option-compatible with other |
| 55 releases, but Red Hat guys refused to do it. If someone is interested - ask | |
| 2440 | 56 Eugene K., avifile author, he has a long mailing with them, because they had |
| 57 the same problems with avifile. Finally he changed avifile source to | |
| 5054 | 58 <I>work around</I> gcc 2.96 bugs... |
| 59 We simply have no interest and time to do it. | |
| 2440 | 60 </P> |
| 61 | |
| 62 <P> | |
| 63 Ah, and about the pipe-in-comment bug: it wasn't really our bug. | |
| 5054 | 64 I've talked to one of the gcc maintainers, and he told me that gcc 2.96 and 3.x |
| 65 support Intel asm syntax, and it caused the pipe bug. But it <I>is</I> a bug, | |
| 2909 | 66 because gcc <I>silently</I>, without any warning, ignored the whole asm block! |
| 2440 | 67 </P> |
| 68 | |
| 69 <P> | |
| 5054 | 70 Other gcc 3.x problems come from a broken libstdc++ or glibc header (std_*.h) |
| 2440 | 71 installation. They are not our fault. MPlayer compiles and works well with |
| 5001 | 72 gcc 2.95.3 (<B>MEncoder</B> won't work with 2.95.2 because it miscompiles |
| 73 some MMX instructions). <B>2.96 and 3.0.x are broken</B>, but it depends on | |
| 74 many environment elements, including gcc 2.96 release number, enabled mplayer | |
| 75 features, etc. <I>If it works for you using gcc 2.96, it doesn't mean it will | |
| 76 work for everyone.</I> | |
| 2440 | 77 </P> |
| 78 | |
| 3053 | 79 <P><B>Answer 2:</B></P> |
| 80 | |
| 81 <P> | |
| 82 Also read <A HREF="users_against_developers.html">this</A> text !!!</P> | |
| 83 | |
| 2441 | 84 <P> |
| 5001 | 85 <B>Question:</B> No! You are wrong! Everything works with gcc 2.96 <I>but</I> MPlayer ! |
| 2441 | 86 </P> |
| 87 | |
| 88 <P> | |
| 89 <B>Answer:</B> | |
| 90 </P> | |
| 91 | |
| 92 <P> | |
| 93 No. You are wrong! | |
| 5054 | 94 Several projects (mostly those which contain highly optimized inline asm code) |
| 95 had problems with gcc 2.96, for example: avifile, MESA / DRI, Wine, ffmpeg, | |
| 96 lame, NuppelVideo, MySQL. But other projects already worked around gcc bugs | |
| 5001 | 97 (changed code which triggered compiler bugs) so they work for now. |
| 2441 | 98 </P> |
| 99 | |
| 100 <P> | |
| 5001 | 101 <B>Question:</B> No! You are wrong! Everything works with gcc 2.96 <I>including</I> MPlayer . |
| 2441 | 102 </P> |
| 103 | |
| 104 <P> | |
| 105 <B>Answer:</B> | |
| 106 </P> | |
| 107 | |
| 108 Good. Be happy. But you must know, it depends on many environment | |
| 109 elements, including gcc 2.96 release number, enabled mplayer features, etc. | |
| 110 <I>If it works for you using gcc 2.96, it doesn't mean it will work for everyone!</I> | |
| 111 It only means that you are lucky, until you find a problem. But don't forget the | |
| 5001 | 112 <B>No.1 rule of gcc 2.96 users: NEVER REPORT BUGS OR PROBLEMS IF YOU ARE USING GCC 2.96</B> ! |
| 2441 | 113 |
| 114 <P> | |
| 5054 | 115 <B>Question:</B> OK. Understood. But I want to give it a try... how to compile with gcc 2.96? |
| 2441 | 116 </P> |
| 117 | |
| 118 <P> | |
| 5054 | 119 <B>Answer:</B> Really? Are you sure? OK. You know... here it is: ./configure --disable-gcc-checking |
| 2441 | 120 </P> |
| 121 | |
| 122 <P> | |
| 123 <B>Question:</B> No! I don't agree with you, because ... | |
| 124 </P> | |
| 125 | |
| 126 <P> | |
| 5001 | 127 <B>Answer:</B> It doesn't matter. Keep your comments to yourself. We're not interested in gcc 2.96 stories. |
| 2441 | 128 </P> |
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