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3 <FONT face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>
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5 <P>
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6 <B>Question:</B> What is GCC 2.96 ? I can't find it at GNU site.
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9 <P>
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10 <B>Answer:</B> Read the <A HREF="http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-2.96.html">official answer from GNU GCC team.</A>
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13 <P>
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14 <B>Question:</B> What is the problem with GCC 2.96 ? And with 3.x ?
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17 <P>
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18 <B>Answer:</B>
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19 </P>
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21 <P>
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22 And for the people, who periodically asks what are the exact problems with
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23 gcc 2.96, my answer: <I>we don't know exactly.</I>
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24 There were various problems and new problems / bugs come up periodically.
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25 It is <I>not a single bug/problem</I>. We just see various bugreports, mostly
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26 gcc internal bugs, compiler syntax errors in source or bad code compiled. They
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27 all are solved using different version of gcc. I understand that gcc 2.96
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28 has different default optimization flags and they conflicts with our inline
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29 asm code, but we can't fix them, and we really don't want to fix them as they
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30 work with other compilers or gcc versions, and the fix may cause speed loss.
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31 </P>
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33 <P>
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34 I think that the gcc 2.96 should be fixed to be option-compatible with other
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35 releases, but redhat guys refused to do it. If someone interested - ask
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36 Eugene K., avifile author, he has a long mailing with them, because they had
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37 the same problems with avifile. Finally he changed avifile source to
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38 <I>workaround</I> gcc 2.96 bugs...
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39 We simply has no interest and time to do it.
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40 </P>
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42 <P>
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43 Ah, and about the pipe-in-comment bug: it wasn't really our bug.
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44 I've talked one of gcc maintainers, and he told me that gcc 2.96 and 3.x
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45 supports intel asm syntax, and it caused the pipe bug. But it was a bug,
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46 because gcc silently, without any warning, ignored the whole asm block.
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47 <I>They</I> have fixed that, now it prints warning and doesn't skip the block.
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48 (at least he told me, i didn't checked)
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49 </P>
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51 <P>
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52 Other gcc 3.x problems comes from broken libstdc++ or glibc header (std_*.h)
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53 installation. They are not our fault. MPlayer compiles and works well with
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54 gcc 3.x versions. <B>Only 2.96 is broken</B>, but it depends on many environment
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55 elements, including gcc 2.96 release number, enabled mplayer features, etc.
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56 <I>If it works for you using gcc 2.96, it doesn't mean it will work for everyone.</I>
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57 </P>
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59 <P>
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60 <B>Question:</B> No! You are wrong! Everything works with gcc 2.96 <I>but</I> MPlayer
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61 </P>
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63 <P>
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64 <B>Answer:</B>
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65 </P>
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67 <P>
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68 No. You are wrong!
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69 Several projects (mainly which source contains high optimized inline asm code)
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70 had problems with gcc 2.96. For example: avifile, MESA / DRI, ffmpeg.
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71 But other projects already workarounded gcc bugs (changed code which
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72 triggered compiler bugs) so they work for now.
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73 </P>
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75 <P>
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76 <B>Question:</B> No! You are wrong! Everything works with gcc 2.96 <I>including</I> MPlayer
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77 </P>
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79 <P>
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80 <B>Answer:</B>
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81 </P>
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83 Good. Be happy. But you must know, it depends on many environment
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84 elements, including gcc 2.96 release number, enabled mplayer features, etc.
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85 <I>If it works for you using gcc 2.96, it doesn't mean it will work for everyone!</I>
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86 It only means that you are lucky, until you find a problem. But don't forget the
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87 <B>No.1 rule of gcc 2.96 users: NEVER REPORT BUGS OR PROBLEMS IF YOU ARE USING GCC 2.96</B>
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89 <P>
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90 <B>Question:</B> Ok. Understood. But I want to give it a try... how to compile with gcc 2.96?
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91 </P>
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93 <P>
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94 <B>Answer:</B> Really? Are you sure? Ok. You know... here is it: ./configure --disable-gcc-checking
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97 <P>
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98 <B>Question:</B> No! I don't agree with you, because ...
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101 <P>
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102 <B>Answer:</B> It doesn't matter. Keep your commets for yourself. We're not interested in gcc 2.96 stories.
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103 </P>
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106 </FONT>
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107 </BODY>
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108 </HTML>