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annotate DOCS/users_against_developers.html @ 6906:3274d0725fde

Changed all link names from the section number to a sensible label. Section numbers were 2.3.2.1. in the section names and 2.3.2.1 in the TOC. I settled for the former everywhere. "Misc OS" is now called "Ports". Checked all internal links, some of them were falsely pointing to renumbered sections. This should no longer happen. And in case some of you think "This must have been a lot of work!", that does not even begin to describe it...

author	diego
date	Sun, 04 Aug 2002 22:13:09 +0000
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6403 c0f189e49ee4 Background color now set by CSS, added doctype and default character set, diego parents: 6393 diff changeset	1 <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
2867 a9a63f7e9ddc nice new docu. read it. gabucino parents: diff changeset	2 <HTML>
4982 6cb9d9a1716d HTML: different font handling - idea from new hp dezign gabucino parents: 4511 diff changeset	3
6cb9d9a1716d HTML: different font handling - idea from new hp dezign gabucino parents: 4511 diff changeset	4 <HEAD>
6882 f3f87f6bf5cf Added a uniform title: something - MPlayer - The Movie Player for Linux. diego parents: 6669 diff changeset	5 <TITLE>Flame Wars - MPlayer - The Movie Player for Linux</TITLE>
6391 4e5c236ade69 small updates gabucino parents: 6055 diff changeset	6 <LINK REL="stylesheet" TYPE="text/css" HREF="default.css">
6403 c0f189e49ee4 Background color now set by CSS, added doctype and default character set, diego parents: 6393 diff changeset	7 <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
4982 6cb9d9a1716d HTML: different font handling - idea from new hp dezign gabucino parents: 4511 diff changeset	8 </HEAD>
6cb9d9a1716d HTML: different font handling - idea from new hp dezign gabucino parents: 4511 diff changeset	9
6403 c0f189e49ee4 Background color now set by CSS, added doctype and default character set, diego parents: 6393 diff changeset	10 <BODY>
2867 a9a63f7e9ddc nice new docu. read it. gabucino parents: diff changeset	11
a9a63f7e9ddc nice new docu. read it. gabucino parents: diff changeset	12
6014 4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	13 <P><B>In medias res</B></P>
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	14
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	15 <P>There are two major topics which always cause huge dispute and flame on the
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	16 <A HREF="http://mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mplayer-users/">mplayer-users</A>
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	17 mailing list. Number one is the topic of the</P>
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	18
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	19 <P><A NAME=gcc><B>GCC 2.96 series</B></A></P>
2867 a9a63f7e9ddc nice new docu. read it. gabucino parents: diff changeset	20
6014 4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	21 <P><B>The background:</B> The GCC <B>2.95</B> series is an official GNU release
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	22 and version 2.95.3 of GCC is the most bug-free in that series.
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	23 We have never noticed compilation problems that we could trace to gcc-2.95.3.
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	24 Starting with Red Hat Linux 7.0, <B>Red Hat</B> included a heavily
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	25 patched CVS version of GCC in their distribution and named it <B>2.96</B>. Red
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	26 Hat included this version in the distribution because GCC 3.0 was not finished at
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	27 the time, and they needed a compiler that worked well on all of their supported
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	28 platforms, including IA64 and s390. The Linux distributor <B>Mandrake</B>
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	29 also followed Red Hat's example and started shipping GCC 2.96 with their
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	30 Linux-Mandrake 8.0 series. </P>
3053 153fc4f5464f ehh too much gabucino parents: 2934 diff changeset	31
6014 4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	32 <P><B>The statements:</B> The GCC team disclaimed any link with GCC 2.96 and issued an
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	33 <A HREF="http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-2.96.html">official response</A> to GCC 2.96.
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	34 Many developers around the world began having problems with GCC 2.96, and
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	35 started recommending other compilers. Examples are
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	36 <A HREF="http://www.apachelabs.org/apr-mbox/200106.mbox/%3c20010623194228.C25512@ebuilt.com%3e">Apache</A>,
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	37 <A HREF="http://www.mysql.com/downloads/mysql-3.23.html">MySQL</A>,
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	38 <A HREF="http://avifile.sourceforge.net/news-old1.htm">avifile</A> and
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	39 <A HREF="http://www.winehq.com/news/?view=92#RH 7.1 gcc fixes compiler bug">Wine</A>.
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	40 Other interesting links are
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	41 <A HREF="http://www.realtimelinux.org/archives/rtai/20017/0144.html">Real time Linux</A>,
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	42 <A HREF="http://www.atnf.csiro.au/people/rgooch/linux/docs/kernel-newsflash.html">
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	43 Linux kernel news flash about kernel 2.4.17</A> and
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	44 <A HREF="http://www.voy.com/3516/572.html">Voy Forum</A>.
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	45 <B>MPlayer</B> also suffered from intermittent problems that were all solved by
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	46 switching to a different version of GCC. Several projects started implementing
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	47 workarounds for some of the 2.96 issues, but we refused to fix other people's
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	48 bugs, especially since some workarounds may imply a performance penalty.</P>
2867 a9a63f7e9ddc nice new docu. read it. gabucino parents: diff changeset	49
6014 4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	50 <P>You can read about the other side of the story
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	51 <A HREF="http://www.bero.org/gcc296.html">here</A>.
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	52 GCC 2.96 does not allow \| (pipe) characters in assembler comments
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	53 because it supports Intel as well as AT&T Syntax and the \| character is a
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	54 symbol in the Intel variant. The problem is that it <B>silently</B> ignores the
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	55 whole assembler block. This is supposedly fixed now, GCC prints a warning instead
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	56 of skipping the block.</P>
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	57
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	58 <P><B>The present:</B> Red Hat says that GCC 2.96-85 and above is fixed. The
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	59 situation has indeed improved, yet we still see problem reports on our
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	60 mailing lists that disappear with a different compiler. In any case it does not
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	61 matter any longer. Hopefully a maturing GCC 3.x will solve the issue for good.
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	62 If you want to compile with 2.96 give the <CODE>--disable-gcc-checking</CODE>
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	63 flag to configure. Remember that you are on your own and <B>do not report any
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	64 bugs</B>. If you do, you will only get banned from our mailing list because
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	65 we have had more than enough flame wars over GCC 2.96. Please let the matter rest.</P>
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	66
6055 3ca1f8cf7bfc various updates by Diego Biurrun <diego@biurrun.de> arpi parents: 6014 diff changeset	67 <P>If you have problems with GCC 2.96, you can get 2.96-85 packages from the
3ca1f8cf7bfc various updates by Diego Biurrun <diego@biurrun.de> arpi parents: 6014 diff changeset	68 Red Hat <A HREF="ftp://updates.redhat.com">ftp server</A>, or just go for the
6574 22def385928d GCC 3.0.4-RH update diego parents: 6403 diff changeset	69 3.0.4 packages offered for version 7.2 and later. You can also get gcc-3.1
22def385928d GCC 3.0.4-RH update diego parents: 6403 diff changeset	70 packages (unofficial, but working fine)
22def385928d GCC 3.0.4-RH update diego parents: 6403 diff changeset	71 <A HREF="ftp://people.redhat.com/jakub/gcc3/3.1-1/">here</A> and you can
22def385928d GCC 3.0.4-RH update diego parents: 6403 diff changeset	72 install them along the gcc-2.96 you already have. MPlayer will detect it and
22def385928d GCC 3.0.4-RH update diego parents: 6403 diff changeset	73 use 3.1 instead of 2.96. If you do not want to or cannot use the binary
22def385928d GCC 3.0.4-RH update diego parents: 6403 diff changeset	74 packages, here is how you can compile GCC 3.1 from source:</P>
2919 40254e0cba96 more flame gabucino parents: 2910 diff changeset	75
6014 4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	76 <UL>
6055 3ca1f8cf7bfc various updates by Diego Biurrun <diego@biurrun.de> arpi parents: 6014 diff changeset	77 <LI>Go to the <A HREF="http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html">GCC mirrors page</A>
6574 22def385928d GCC 3.0.4-RH update diego parents: 6403 diff changeset	78 page and download <CODE>gcc-core-3.1.tar.gz</CODE>. This includes the
6055 3ca1f8cf7bfc various updates by Diego Biurrun <diego@biurrun.de> arpi parents: 6014 diff changeset	79 complete C compiler and is sufficient for <B>MPlayer</B>. If you also want
3ca1f8cf7bfc various updates by Diego Biurrun <diego@biurrun.de> arpi parents: 6014 diff changeset	80 C++, Java or some of the other advanced GCC features
6574 22def385928d GCC 3.0.4-RH update diego parents: 6403 diff changeset	81 <CODE>gcc-3.1.tar.gz</CODE> may better suit your needs.</LI>
6055 3ca1f8cf7bfc various updates by Diego Biurrun <diego@biurrun.de> arpi parents: 6014 diff changeset	82 <LI>Extract the archive with<BR>
6574 22def385928d GCC 3.0.4-RH update diego parents: 6403 diff changeset	83 <CODE>tar -xvzf gcc-core-3.1.tar.gz</CODE></LI>
6055 3ca1f8cf7bfc various updates by Diego Biurrun <diego@biurrun.de> arpi parents: 6014 diff changeset	84 <LI>GCC is not built inside the source directory itself like most programs,
3ca1f8cf7bfc various updates by Diego Biurrun <diego@biurrun.de> arpi parents: 6014 diff changeset	85 but needs a build directory outside the source directory. Thus you need to
3ca1f8cf7bfc various updates by Diego Biurrun <diego@biurrun.de> arpi parents: 6014 diff changeset	86 create this directory via<BR>
3ca1f8cf7bfc various updates by Diego Biurrun <diego@biurrun.de> arpi parents: 6014 diff changeset	87 <CODE>mkdir gcc-build</CODE></LI>
3ca1f8cf7bfc various updates by Diego Biurrun <diego@biurrun.de> arpi parents: 6014 diff changeset	88 <LI>Then you can proceed to configure gcc in the build directory, but you need
3ca1f8cf7bfc various updates by Diego Biurrun <diego@biurrun.de> arpi parents: 6014 diff changeset	89 the configure from the source directory:<BR>
3ca1f8cf7bfc various updates by Diego Biurrun <diego@biurrun.de> arpi parents: 6014 diff changeset	90 <CODE>cd gcc-build<BR>
6574 22def385928d GCC 3.0.4-RH update diego parents: 6403 diff changeset	91 ../gcc-3.1/configure</CODE></LI>
6055 3ca1f8cf7bfc various updates by Diego Biurrun <diego@biurrun.de> arpi parents: 6014 diff changeset	92 <LI>Compile GCC by issuing this command in the build directory:<BR>
3ca1f8cf7bfc various updates by Diego Biurrun <diego@biurrun.de> arpi parents: 6014 diff changeset	93 <CODE>make bootstrap</CODE></LI>
3ca1f8cf7bfc various updates by Diego Biurrun <diego@biurrun.de> arpi parents: 6014 diff changeset	94 <LI>Now you can install GCC (as root) by typing<BR>
3ca1f8cf7bfc various updates by Diego Biurrun <diego@biurrun.de> arpi parents: 6014 diff changeset	95 <CODE>make install</CODE></LI>
6014 4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	96 </UL>
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	97
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	98 <P><A NAME=binary><B>Binary distribution of MPlayer</B></A></P>
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	99
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	100 <P>This was the second big problem but has been solved as of version
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	101 0.90-pre1. <B>MPlayer</B> previously contained source from the OpenDivX project,
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	102 which disallows binary redistribution. This code has been removed and you are now
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	103 welcome to create binary packages as you see fit.</P>
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	104
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	105 <P>Another impediment to binary redistribution was compiletime optimizations
6583 4b7d097a9c69 big update gabucino parents: 6574 diff changeset	106 for CPU architecture. <B>MPlayer</B> now supports runtime CPU detection
4b7d097a9c69 big update gabucino parents: 6574 diff changeset	107 (specify the <CODE>--enable-runtime-cpudetection</CODE> option when
4b7d097a9c69 big update gabucino parents: 6574 diff changeset	108 compiling). It is disabled by default because it implies a small speed
4b7d097a9c69 big update gabucino parents: 6574 diff changeset	109 sacrifice, it is now possible to create binaries that run on different
4b7d097a9c69 big update gabucino parents: 6574 diff changeset	110 members of the Intel CPU family.</P>
6014 4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	111
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	112 <P><A NAME=nvidia><B>nVidia</B></A></P>
2867 a9a63f7e9ddc nice new docu. read it. gabucino parents: diff changeset	113
6014 4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	114 <P>We dislike the fact that <A HREF="http://www.nvidia.com">nVidia</A>
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	115 only provides binary drivers (for use with XFree86), which are often buggy.
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	116 We have had many reports on
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	117 <A HREF="http://mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mplayer-users/">mplayer-users</A>
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	118 about problems related to these closed-source drivers
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	119 and their poor quality, instability and poor user and expert support.
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	120 Here is an example from the
6403 c0f189e49ee4 Background color now set by CSS, added doctype and default character set, diego parents: 6393 diff changeset	121 <A HREF="http://www.nvnews.net/forum/showthread.php?s=fda5725bc2151e29453b2da3bd5d2930&threadid=14306">
6014 4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	122 nVidia Linux Forum</A>.
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	123 Many of these problems/issues keep appearing repeatedly.
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	124 We have been contacted by nVidia lately, and they said these bugs
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	125 do not exist, instability is caused by bad AGP chips, and they received
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	126 no reports of driver bugs (like the purple line). So if you have a
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	127 problem with your nVidia card, you are advised to update the nVidia driver
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	128 and/or buy a new motherboard or ask nVidia to supply open-source drivers.
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	129 In any case, if you are using the nVidia binary drivers and facing driver related problems,
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	130 please be aware that you will receive very little help from our side because we have
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	131 little power to help in this matter.</P>
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	132
6906 3274d0725fde Changed all link names from the section number to a sensible label. diego parents: 6882 diff changeset	133 <P><A NAME="barr"><B>Joe Barr</B></A></P>
2867 a9a63f7e9ddc nice new docu. read it. gabucino parents: diff changeset	134
6014 4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	135 <P>Joe Barr became infamous by writing a less than favorable
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	136 <A HREF="http://www.linuxworld.com/site-stories/2001/1214.mplayer.html">
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	137 <B>MPlayer</B> review</A>. He found <B>MPlayer</B> hard to install, but then
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	138 again he is not very fond of
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	139 <A HREF="http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-2000-06/lw-06-exam.html">reading documentation</A>.
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	140 He also concluded that the developers were unfriendly and the documentation
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	141 incomplete and insulting. You be the judge.
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	142 He went on to mention <B>MPlayer</B> negatively in his
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	143 <A HREF="http://www.linuxworld.com/site-stories/2001/1227.predictions.html">10 Linux predictions for 2002</A>
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	144 In a followup
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	145 <A HREF="http://www.linuxworld.com/site-stories/2002/0125.xine.html">review of xine</A>
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	146 he continued stirring up controversy. Ironically at the end of that article he
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	147 quotes his exchange with G�nter Bartsch, the original author of xine, that
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	148 perfectly summarizes the whole situation:</P>
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	149
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	150 <BLOCKQUOTE>
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	151 However, he also went on to say that he was "surprised" by my column about
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	152 Mplayer and thought it was unfair, reminding me that it is a free software
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	153 project. "If you don't like it," Bartsch said, "you're free not to use it."
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	154 </BLOCKQUOTE>
2867 a9a63f7e9ddc nice new docu. read it. gabucino parents: diff changeset	155
6014 4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	156 <P>He does not reply to our mails. His editor does not reply to our mails.
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	157 Here are some quotes from different people about Joe Barr, so you can form your
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	158 own opinion:</P>
4511 bca05e9c0810 gcc 3.0.3 compiling howto by Matt Willis <willis_matthew@yahoo.com> gabucino parents: 3997 diff changeset	159
6014 4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	160 <P>Marc Rassbach has <A HREF="http://daily.daemonnews.org/view_story.php3?story_id=2102">something to say</A>
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	161 about the man
4511 bca05e9c0810 gcc 3.0.3 compiling howto by Matt Willis <willis_matthew@yahoo.com> gabucino parents: 3997 diff changeset	162 </P>
2867 a9a63f7e9ddc nice new docu. read it. gabucino parents: diff changeset	163
6014 4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	164 <BLOCKQUOTE>
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	165 You may all remember the LinuxWorld 2000, when he claimed that Linus T said
3936 f0962aeffc41 nvidia & joebarr entry gabucino parents: 3053 diff changeset	166 that 'FreeBSD is just a handful of programmers'. Linus said NOTHING of the
f0962aeffc41 nvidia & joebarr entry gabucino parents: 3053 diff changeset	167 sort. When Joe was called on this, his reaction was to call BSD supporters
6014 4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	168 assholes and jerks.
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	169 </BLOCKQUOTE>
3936 f0962aeffc41 nvidia & joebarr entry gabucino parents: 3053 diff changeset	170
6014 4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	171 <P>A <A HREF="http://www.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mplayer-users/2001-December/009118.html">quote</A>
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	172 from Robert Munro on the
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	173 <A HREF="http://mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mplayer-users/">mplayer-users</A>
6403 c0f189e49ee4 Background color now set by CSS, added doctype and default character set, diego parents: 6393 diff changeset	174 mailing list:</P>
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4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	176 <BLOCKQUOTE>
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	177 <P>He's interesting, but not good at avoiding, um... controversy. Joe Barr
3936 f0962aeffc41 nvidia & joebarr entry gabucino parents: 3053 diff changeset	178 used to be one of the regulars on Will Zachmann's Canopus forum on Compuserve,
6014 4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	179 years ago. He was an OS/2 advocate then (I was an OS/2 fan too).<P>
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	180
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	181 <P>He used to go over-the-top, flaming people, and I suspect he had some hard
3936 f0962aeffc41 nvidia & joebarr entry gabucino parents: 3053 diff changeset	182 times, then. He's mellowed some, judging by his columns recently. Moderately
6014 4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	183 subtle humor was not his mode in those earlier days, not at all.</P>
4f0b13262397 applied Nilmoni Debian's (and Diego Burrick) patch gabucino parents: 5979 diff changeset	184 </BLOCKQUOTE>
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